Editing Talk:United Kingdom (section)

== Vassal state POV ==

What do we think of these books (unfortunately no academic reviews)? Is this [[WP:Due]] as an attributed sentence in the Politics/Foreign relations section? 
::{{tq|A minority of authors have likened the UK's relationship with the US to one of vassalage.}}
* ''Someone Else's Empire: British Illusions and American Hegemony'' [https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Someone_Else_s_Empire.html?id=puqcEAAAQBAJ&redir_esc=y]
* ''Vassal State: How America Runs Britain'' [https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Vassal_State.html?id=9JTVEAAAQBAJ&redir_esc=y]
[[User:Kowal2701|Kowal2701]] ([[User talk:Kowal2701|talk]]) 19:02, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

:Some journal articles:
:* [https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/002088170404200202] ''The "Poodle theory" and the Anglo-American "Special relationship"''
:* [https://dergipark.org.tr/en/download/article-file/539701] ''Sugar-Coating Interest With Morality – From 9/11 to the Gates of Baghdad: The Anglo-American Special Relationship and the Continual British Support for US Foreign Policy''
:* [https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/03071840308446865] ''Greeks and Romans: Anglo‐American relations after 9/11''
:[[User:Kowal2701|Kowal2701]] ([[User talk:Kowal2701|talk]]) 19:20, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
:Tom Stevenson is not an academic but a independent reporter with unknown credentials. Swift Press publishes literary fiction as well as crime and thrillers.... having no peer reviewed publication. <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]</span>🍁 19:23, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
::LRB is quite reputable, and he's been a reporter for Times Literary Supplement, Financial Times, and the BBC. [https://www.versobooks.com/en-gb/blogs/authors/stevenson-tom] [[User:Kowal2701|Kowal2701]] ([[User talk:Kowal2701|talk]]) 19:34, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
::The FT does some of the highest quality reporting on international issues, although admittedly he seems limited to finance. [[User:Kowal2701|Kowal2701]] ([[User talk:Kowal2701|talk]]) 19:36, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
:::There must be academic publications? <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]</span>🍁 00:13, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
:In general, I would not include anything with the caveat "a minority of authors" in country articles. The article's are dense enough that there isn't really that much space for interpretation, and if interpretation is to be included, it probably shouldn't be those of minority views. [[User:Chipmunkdavis|CMD]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 01:14, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
:If a view written by a journalist has weight, then it would be mentioned in an academic publication.  [[User:The Four Deuces|TFD]] ([[User talk:The Four Deuces|talk]]) 06:35, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
::Yeah that’s fair, but what they’re getting at is that the special relationship isn’t on equal footing, which the current wording implies, maybe it could be altered to reflect this? [[User:Kowal2701|Kowal2701]] ([[User talk:Kowal2701|talk]]) 06:43, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
:::How does the current wording suggest the footing is equal? [[User:Chipmunkdavis|CMD]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 07:08, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
::::As far as I can see it doesn't - it's quite an anodyne statement which links to the [[Special relationship]] article where all these issues are discussed. In any case, isn't it obvious it wouldn't mean it was on an equal footing, the US being the superpower and the UK isn't? [[User:DeCausa|DeCausa]] ([[User talk:DeCausa|talk]]) 07:13, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
::::It doesn’t objectively, but it doesn’t discuss British illusions that the reader may be under. The [[Special relationship]] article doesn’t even mention this in its lead. I suppose the current wording here is fine, and it’s not our job to speculate on the reader [[User:Kowal2701|Kowal2701]] ([[User talk:Kowal2701|talk]]) 07:33, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::That's weird. Lower case r links it to the wrong page. This is the article I meant: [[Special Relationship]]. If there's an issue with maybe that's the page you should look at changing rather than this one. [[User:DeCausa|DeCausa]] ([[User talk:DeCausa|talk]]) 07:44, 26 September 2024 (UTC)